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the people who aren't willing to make a compromise. >> this is something we know that our elected leader haves to get done and don't have hope for getting something done is on gun control in this country, although the conversation still wages on. fresh in the news is the fact that four firefighters were basically used as target practice for this person in webster, new york. two were shot and killed on christmas eve in upstate new york. there's the suspect right there. william spangler spent time in prison for murdering his grandmother. he shouldn't be access to weapons at all. police say that he left a note behind saying he was doing what he liked to do best, killing. they think in the burned remains to find his sister. they have found human remains but they haven't said whether or not it is his spangler's sister or lot. lynn, the fact that we're talking about this, do we do it now through the prism of newtown? he had also a weapon, the ar-15 rifle, one of the weapons that spangler used. do we look at it through the prism of newtown? >> newtown, virginia tech, columbine, northern illinoi
in washington, what happened to the immigration debate we all expected after election day? and leading into this holiday weekend, thousands of flights being delayed, look at the list here as a winter storm hits the midwest, we will tell you what is ahead for the travel plans. we begin with the stalled fiscal cliff debate. president obama and his family are vacationing in hawaii and congress is on holiday recess. both sides are holding out hope that they will be able to reach a deal. >> this is something within our capacity to solve. it does not take this much work. we just have to do the right thing. >> of course, hope springs eternal and i know we have it in us to come together and do the right thing. >> listen to that, and it seems like they are both positive and feel something can get done. while both sides are away, the away and president in hawaii, can they get something done? >> reporter: well, look, richard, this will be a working vacation for president obama and i can also tell you that staffers on both sides of pennsylvania avenue will be in talks over the next several days de
to be re-elected. >> that's right. they're going to need a lot of power going forward to get lngs through. >> we heard this on friday, we heard it on sunday from lapierre. he was using the terms "good guys" fairly frequently. does that positive association he's making with police officers, of those who are trained using gun, using the terms "good guys" is that what we expect to hear for all those who are opponents of gun legislation going forward? >> i think so. i think that will be part of the conversation. but, you know, this will be a really difficult battle on capitol hill, especially in the house but also in the senate. we see a lot of democrats up nor reelection in two years from more rural states so it might be difficult for them as well to fully embrace some of the issues being talked about or some of the policies going forward. so much we might see this in little bits of legislation. >> i was reading a number over 50% of those of the 113th who were put into office receive money from the nra. that would make things very difficult i would imagine as they are of course thinking abou
for the next congress. that happens on january 3rd, when they formally elect a speaker. that's one theory, but probably the thing that make the most sense is the fact that then it becomes a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans, instead of allowing them to rise for 1% or 2%. that is something logically the republicans would probably or more likely go along with, though at this point who knows where we'll end up with on this thing. january 3rd is the new congress. in the days after that, that's the inertia it scenario. >> gentlemen, thanks so that. i appreciate it. >>> we want to bring in today's panel s perry bacon, democratic strategy margie omero, and chip saltzmann. i want to talk about with what steve la tourette had to say today being interviewed on cnn. >> this isn't a one party or a one house problem. this is leaders of both parties and all branches of the government not willing to make the deal they know they have to make. everybody wants to play the blame game. this is about to put us over the edge. >> perry, i want to start with you. if perception is reality and the blame is go
hold this vote as a score on whether to support them or oppose them in the last election they got very scared and they said we'll vote against the party leadership. >> that could have emboldened them. >> so the speaker is trying to punish them and those that were the outliars as you were describing here. that didn't work and they started to work against them and the question will be what will work? >> it is not clear that there is anything that will work other than as bill points out, having their constituents not support that type of behavior that sort of -- i like to call the hell no caucus. you can't get these guys to yes. if their constituents get to the point that they're angry, then maybe they should start voting with the party. and it's not just speaker john boehner. he was not the one sort of leading the rabble of the one leading it, he did serve on the panel and he wasn't personally the force behind that. can the speaker ignore these groups because based on what we're seeing so far they're working against him. >> he can't ignore them and what the president has to do is simply
of these house republicans were elected with more than 60% of the vote and their constituents don't want them to compromise. >> senator lindsey graham was "meet the press this morning. >> we are one law away from solving this problem. this problem runs deep and wide. i live in south carolina and chuck lives in new york. i understand how he was brought up. maybe he tries to understand how i was rabrought up. people where i live i have been christmas shopping have been coming up to me, please don't let the government take my guns away. >> how realistic do you think that is? >> chuck is my boss. anything chuck says absolutely 100%. >> who said there wasn't politics on the show today? >> it's a rhetorical question because president obama himself has mentioned on the streets of chicago you need one set of gun rules and in wyoming maybe it is something else. i think we have seen that kind of regionalization of laws. connecticut had an assault weapons ban that didn't prevent this tragedy from happening and didn't outlaw the kind of gun you would want to be outlawed for that kind of tragedy. i don't
and they know obama won the election and what they don't want is to have their fingerprints on it and if speaker boehner put on the floor something that would pass almost exclusively with democratic votes. >> right. >> i do not think there would be a revolt again. st speaker boehner because his members know he can't stop it and they'd be in a position where they can vote no and maintain their purity. i actually think the speaker is trying to be a constructive partner and he's just got a significant element in his caucus that will not vote for any new revenue. >> some might argue he's seen the revolt from the tea party section and constituency of the caucus right now. >> congressman, peter welch, thank you for stopping by. >> tomorrow we'll get another perspective from marcia blac blackburn, stick around for that. >> the only way to keep a monster from killing our kids is to invest in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >>> all right. we heard that a little bit earlier. three more first graders will be laid to rest today in conne
and the election hangover. new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me. he says he wants a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first lady attended the holiday memorial service for the late u.s. senator from daniel inouye. >> white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, obviously they always say the white house travels with the president wherever he is. that's where the white house is. the pres
mandate of re-election and the fact he ran on raising taxes if he was given a second term, why is there such this stalemate and trepidation in washington, d.c. to get a deal done? >> reporter: how many hours do we have? let me try it this way. there's a group of hard core tea party republicans but democrats say we won because as your poll shows most americans support the president's position on higher taxes on top earners and seemingly at this point about leverage rather than compromise, and frankly, a reluctance on both sides to have the first set of fingerprints on significant spending cuts, whether it's defense ovr entitlement program. >> thank you. and merry christmas to you and your team there. >> merry christmas to you guys. >> thank you. >>> in terms of politics and a deal, wyoming senator says he thinks that the white house want it is country to go over the fiscal cliff to give the president leverage. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the clip for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the clif
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